Christian Condemnation. How the evangelical church fails children and families.

IMG_0272  So recently a Southern Baptist Pastor in Junction City Ks sent my wife and I this troubling email after I shared with him the speech at the Nancy Schaeffer Memorial. Not only is his opinion replete with error about our life (I have no idea what he is talking about concerning my wife), but his response is not in line with the heart and life of Jesus.


I responded the way that I did because 1 Timothy 5:8 says, “But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever.”

Your children were not kidnapped by child traffickers. They were neglected by drug addicted parents who constantly fought with one another and they were confiscated by the state. I’m sure it has been no picnic for them and I’m sure terrible things have happened to them. It would not have happened if their father had been obedient to the Lord. Even now, you refuse to acknowledge your sin and you are blaming the state. There was another occasion I spoke with you, you blamed your wife.

Furthermore, you have eschewed the true gospel and traded it for a social gospel, which is no gospel at all. Not one person in the history of the world was ever saved by one good deed (Ephesians 2:8). Man is incapable of good works (Psalm 14:3, Romans 3:12). We are saved by the declaration of the gospel and no other way (Romans 10:17, 1 Peter 1:23, James 1:18). The word gospel means “good news.” It cannot be done, it must be spoken. The works we then do, once we’ve been transformed by Christ, affirm the truth we believe.

But you have not been obedient and your actions do not justify your behavior. They are merely a smokescreen for the sins you refuse to admit. What you call fighting for the poor, widows, orphans, and oppressed means absolutely nothing because you could not care for your own wife and children. I say this to you as an urgent warning that if you do not repent and return to the gospel you once heard, it will destroy you. Not everyone who says “Lord, Lord” will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but only those who did the will of the Father (Matthew 7:21).

It is out of compassion, not a quarrelsome heart, that I appeal to you. Cry out to Jesus, and you will be saved. Be wretched and mourn and weep. Turn from your sin and fight for your family — not against the state but against the old man Adam that has corrupted your flesh.

-pastor Gabriel-


So this Pastor recognizes there is serious problems with DCF, but claims We shouldn’t expose it, and furthermore believes that parents who have children victimized by DCF are to blame cause they are not “Obedient enough” to his understanding of the gospel.  This is outrageous. How many families are attacked by those professing to serve the God of love? When the church should be standing in between the child traffickers and the parents, like former Gubernatorial Candidate Jennifer Winn and her dream team, instead they have a tendency to attack the victims.

God is love,

“The one who does not love does not know God, because God is love.” 1 John 4:8

And it is the goodness of God that leads people to change their lives, which we shouldn’t ignore,

“Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?” Romans 2:4

It is the nature of the church to expose evil works,

“Have no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.” Ephesians 5:11

I sent Pastor Gabe a story from the ancient church which demonstrated how a true Shepherd of Christ should approach those overcome by sin. I will reprint it here so you may see how those who truly serve the God of love should pursue the heart of those captured by the deceitfulness of sin. It’s a story about John the Apostle.

Taken from the writings of Eusebius.
“And that you may be still more confident, that repenting thus truly there remains for you a sure hope of salvation, listen to a tale, which is not a tale but a narrative, handed down and committed to the custody of memory, about the Apostle John. For when, on the tyrant’s death, John returned to Ephesus from the isle of Patmos, he went away, being invited, to the contiguous territories of the nations, here to appoint bishops, there to set in order whole Churches, there to ordain such as were marked out by the Spirit.
“Having come to one of the cities not far off (the name of which some give ), and having put the brethren to rest in other matters, at last, looking to the bishop appointed, and seeing a youth, powerful in body, comely in appearance, and ardent, said, This (youth) I commit to you in all earnestness, in the presence of the Church, and with Christ as witness. And on his accepting and promising all, he gave the same injunction and testimony. And he set out for Ephesus. And the presbyter taking home the youth committed to him, reared, kept, cherished, and finally baptized him. After this he relaxed his stricter care and guardianship, under the idea that the seal of the Lord he had set on him was a complete protection to him. But on his obtaining premature freedom, some youths of his age, idle, dissolute, and adepts in evil courses, corrupt him. First they entice him by many costly entertainments; then afterwards by night issuing forth for highway robbery, they take him along with them. Then they dared to execute together something greater. And he by degrees got accustomed; and from greatness of nature, when he had gone aside from the right path, and like a hard-mouthed and powerful horse, had taken the bit between his teeth, rushed with all the more force down into the depths. And having entirely despaired of salvation in God, he no longer meditated what was insignificant, but having perpetrated some great exploit, now that he was once lost, he made up his mind to a like fate with the rest. Taking them and forming a band of robbers, he was the prompt captain of the bandits, the fiercest, the bloodiest, the cruelest.
“Time passed, and some necessity having emerged, they send again for John. He, when he had settled the other matters on account of which he came, said, Come now, O bishop, restore to us the deposit which I and the Saviour committed to you in the face of the Church over which you preside, as witness. The other was at first confounded, thinking that it was a false charge about money which he did not get; and he could neither believe the allegation regarding what he had not, nor disbelieve John. But when he said I demand the young man, and the soul of the brother, the old man, groaning deeply, and bursting into tears, said, He is dead. How and what kind of death? He is dead, he said, to God. For he turned wicked and abandoned, and at last a robber; and now he has taken possession of the mountain in front of the church, along with a band like him. Rending, therefore, his clothes, and striking his head with great lamentation, the apostle said, It was a fine guard of a brother’s soul I left! But let a horse be brought me, and let some one be my guide on the way. He rode away, just as he was, straight from the church. On coming to the place, he is arrested by the robbers’ outpost; neither fleeing nor entreating, but crying, It was for this I came. Lead me to your captain; who meanwhile was waiting, all armed as he was. But when he recognized John as he advanced, he turned, ashamed, to flight. The other followed with all his might, forgetting his age, crying, Why, my son, do you flee from me, your father, unarmed, old? Son, pity me. Fear not; you have still hope of life. I will give account to Christ for you. If need be, I will willingly endure your death, as the Lord did death for us. For you I will surrender my life. Stand, believe; Christ has sent me.
“And he, when he heard, first stood, looking down; then threw down his arms, then trembled and wept bitterly. And on the old man approaching, he embraced him, speaking for himself with lamentations as he could, and baptized a second time with tears, concealing only his right hand. The other pledging, and assuring him on oath that he would find forgiveness for himself from the Saviour, beseeching and falling on his knees, and kissing his right hand itself, as now purified by repentance, led him back to the church.
“Then by supplicating with copious prayers, and striving along with him in continual fastings, and subduing his mind by various utterances of words, did not depart, as they say, till he restored him to the Church, presenting in him a great example of true repentance and a great token of regeneration, a trophy of the resurrection for which we hope; when at the end of the world, the angels, radiant with joy, hymning and opening the heavens, shall receive into the celestial abodes those who truly repent; and before all, the Saviour Himself goes to meet them, welcoming them; holding forth the shadowless, ceaseless light; conducting them, to the Father’s bosom, to eternal life, to the kingdom of heaven.

About Seraphim

After seeing the horror of the DCF practices and policies, the Schwab family is dedicated to issues of liberty and connecting people, groups and organizations for a National Underground to counter DCF's war on parents and families.
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2 Responses to Christian Condemnation. How the evangelical church fails children and families.

  1. My daughter lived with me for seven years before her father abducted her and removed her from the state. He never paid child support. Instead, he spent his money paying off attorneys and judges. A way has been made for him through the Courts to get whatever he wants and ruin me if I ask for help. Though his parents are devout Mormons and he now lives in their basement, having retired from 20 years in the Army, they NEVER ONCE told him to pay any kind of child support. I went to the heads of the Mormon church in Salt Lake City and they would neither confront him with the words of Timothy nor the words in their Doctrine and Covenants 83 that women have claim upon husbands and fathers for support. Instead, he found a way to break the law, filing for custody from out of state and then claim that I broke it, having me incarcerated for showing up at a court hearing out of state and arguing that I should not lose custody. I have not seen my daughter for nearly 2 years, since the day she got on the school bus and her principal turned her over to him because he appeared with police to take her away before her year was out. In no way were either she or I EVER treated as human beings at any time.

    Thank you for writing about this! There are infidels and reprobate fathers everywhere, appearing to Jesus as whited walls full of dead men’s bones.


  2. rairsysca says:

    I am very sorry Pastor Gabriel Hughes said the those things.


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